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10 years 9 months ago #10079 by nomatter
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Hi Nico,

I am testing Devices with b39 on 10.10.3.
For this purpose I've created the personality for Martin 250 Entour (Standard 15ch) which is included in library of Capture Argo Student.
And It works.
I'm new with Devices but it's seems quite handy. (except for some crash doing weird stuff)

Few Questions:

- To create a Dlink, Intensity has to have value > 0; So if I need to move machine on black I need to record cue with light, then to modify intensity and save again. Is there another way I don't know?
- I know you're still working on MIDI. Are you also adding MIDI command to activate Palettes? It will be very useful for impro shows.
- Imagine I have 2 equal device set with different DMX address. Is it possible to control them with same channel? I didn't succeed in it.
- Really great the possibility to save Palette in Dlink. In this way if I modify Palette I will see changes all over the sequence. Really useful for refocusing devices in a tour show. Awesome.


I attach personality file to let anyone play with it.

Thanks a lot,

Carlo.

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10 years 9 months ago - 10 years 9 months ago #10080 by totoine
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Hello,

first of all, I apologize for my english !

- To create a Dlink, Intensity has to have value > 0; So if I need to move machine on black I need to record cue with light, then to modify intensity and save again. Is there another way I don't know

When Intensity are @ 0 on a device, D/L change all the palette of this device to next step where Intensity will be up. So you don't have to make your tips, D/L make's it alone.

- Imagine I have 2 equal device set with different DMX address. Is it possible to control them with same channel? I didn't succeed in it.

If you want to control with the same channel, why do you not put the same address ?

- Really great the possibility to save Palette in Dlink. In this way if I modify Palette I will see changes all over the sequence. Really useful for refocusing devices in a tour show. Awesome.

I agree with that ! Palette are a very useful tool !!!

I attach personality file to let anyone play with it.

You can pull your device here . Everybody can get it in the future ;)
Explain for pull device was here (in french...) but if you know github, you can found easilly

Bye !
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10 years 9 months ago - 10 years 9 months ago #10081 by aroom
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Salut Totoine,

t'as l'air d'être bien au clair avec les devices et les palettes.

pourrais-tu faire un tour sur le wiki ( getdlight.com/wiki/index.php/DEVICES#Devices_Listing ) et le corriger / compléter stp ?

il faudrait aussi rajouter un article concernant les D Links
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10 years 9 months ago #10083 by totoine
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Hey !

J'ai pas beaucoup utilisé les Devices en show, mais j'ai pas mal fait de chasse aux bugs dessus ;)

J'avais commencé à écrire un peu, mais là, tu as fais une très bonne base !! Je vais essayer continuer un peu ça. Je vais aussi chercher un moyen de venir sur l'irc pour pouvoir en discuter quand j'aurai un peu de temps à ça.

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10 years 9 months ago - 10 years 9 months ago #10084 by Wilf
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sl1200mk2 wrote: @Wilf (...)

I've done that and still no success.

I've tried to make a personality file for the Expolite TourLED Pro 28 Zoom. To make it easier I first made one with the simple personality of the device (AR2.D) which includes master dimmer, R, G, B, W. When using it conventional, it responds. Not so when I make it in a device.

In a test show I gave the device channel 50 and patched it to dimmer 15 (and so on). When I set ch 50 @ F and then add colors nothing happens.


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10 years 9 months ago - 10 years 9 months ago #10085 by Wilf
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Ok, when testing dimmer 15 in the patch and then changing the colours it does work. So it must be something with(in) the intensity channel that does not work as it should. The colour chart is not perfect since it does not take white into account but it does work and close enough, which makes me happy. So what did I do wrong with the master dimmer on the first channel in my personality file...? I can see no strange things...?

[edit]

After switching around with devices it suddenly started working completely (also the dimmer channel, and its colours). When opening a new file and trying it again everything again stops working, also the dimmer testing. Quite confused now.


[edit 2] 4.0.b39 crashes when I adjust color values when I try to test with the personality file without master dimmer (only 4 channels/dimmers).
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10 years 9 months ago #10086 by totoine
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Hello !

In your device, your parameter of intensity would be DIMMER instead of MASTER DIMMER.
I've try to modify them directly on devices listing and it doesn't work better. But I've edit it on Personnality Editor, save as a new name and try again, and INTENSITY works.

TO patch your device, you have to specify your channel on Device listing, and next patch the DMX address on D-Patch colon on Patch window.

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10 years 9 months ago #10087 by sl1200mk2
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Hi,
Antoine is right, you need to set DIMMER as INTENSITY parameter in order to work.
attached the Device's personality modified.

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10 years 9 months ago #10089 by Wilf
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That did the trick - I didn't though the Parameter value was of such importance name-wise (I took over the personality name of the manufacturer).

Thanks Antoine et Nico!

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10 years 9 months ago #10090 by sl1200mk2
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@Wilf,
cool, I've pushed your personality to dlight-tools:
github.com/dlight-tools/dlight-devices

@nomatter
thanx for sharing, I've pushed your personality to dlight-tools too.
by the way, I've set some HOME value for shutter (we want it open for HOME calls), and for PAN/TILT

To create a Dlink, Intensity has to have value > 0; So if I need to move machine on black I need to record cue with light, then to modify intensity and save again. Is there another way I don't know?

D::Light will automatically do move on black.
-step 1, intensity = FF, DLink to set devices at some palette
-step 10, intensity = 0 (move to next asked palette as in step 11 a dlink is recorded)
-step 11, intensity = FF, DLink to set device to some other palette.

I know you're still working on MIDI. Are you also adding MIDI command to activate Palettes? It will be very useful for impro shows.

not yet, this and OSC calls will come in future

Imagine I have 2 equal device set with different DMX address. Is it possible to control them with same channel? I didn't succeed in it.

nope,
use GROUPs to work with several devices

Really great the possibility to save Palette in Dlink. In this way if I modify Palette I will see changes all over the sequence. Really useful for refocusing devices in a tour show. Awesome.

use the palette editor.
if you modify levels for a palette in the palette editor, every time the palette is call, it will use new levels

thanx for trying these Device's new feature.
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nicolas

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10 years 9 months ago - 10 years 9 months ago #10091 by totoine
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That did the trick - I didn't though the Parameter value was of such importance name-wise (I took over the personality name of the manufacturer).


I think only this one is important. Other parameter can be named as you like !
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10 years 9 months ago #10094 by sl1200mk2
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the more you keep name that D::Light recognize as parameter, the more D::Light will be able to do proper merge between devices.

let's say that on tour, on the first date you work with ClayPaky, and the seconde date with Martin, you'll want to merge personality (in the device listing) for your sho.

and as for now I didn't finish the merge, D::Light will only merge if it recognize parameter's word.

this is where it's important to keep parameter's name
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10 years 9 months ago #10096 by Wilf
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@ Nico: I changed the personalities and made a few more - I'll make the rest too (the TOUR and ALL at least).

I changed the name of every personality to match the personality chosen on the device.
The one with AR2.Z has a seventh channel with 0-200 no function, 201-220 zoom reset, 221-255 no function. Please look into it to see if I made the right choice in naming (I do not know however where to find the function for it in DLight).

By the way, this par has a HSV personality - how can I implement that?

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10 years 9 months ago #10098 by sl1200mk2
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By the way, this par has a HSV personality - how can I implement that?


HSV ???
I thought it was only a computer thing and that only CMY or RGB exists...
DL can do HSV, but it's math derived from CMY.
can you post a link to the manufacturer doc?

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10 years 9 months ago #10099 by Wilf
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This is a PDF of the manual. It reads very hard since it is a printout PDF so all the pages are mixed up.

www.rolight.nl/download/ROLIGHT156054.pdf

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